January 30, 2006
Iranians in Israel
Some people keep forgetting that Iran and Israel are closer than ever to a war. And this is exactly why I'm here.
I, as the peace activist who wants to make bridges and the citizen journalist who wants to humanize both sides for one another have not chosen to focus on the Palestinian-Israeli issue. Because it's a very complicated issue that I don't have enough expertise to explore, let alone comprehend and report about. I don't know any of the two languages of the two sides and haven't read enough to even have a specific opinion about the conflict and take sides.
Does it mean that I don't care it? Does it mean that I think Iran-Israel conflict is more important than Palestine-Israel? Of course not. But when I have limited resources (knowledge, time, and money), it's my right to chose my focus.
In the past few days, I've meet with many Iranian-Israelis and have recorded extensive interviews with then in Persian. About their life in Iran, in Israel, and their hope and plans for the future. I'm going to meet a few more and interview them too. This is one side of the story.
But in terms of what the Israelis think about Iranians, I still need to work more. So far I've talked to a lot of people and they've all been very friendly and nice, even after hearing my name and where I come from. But I'm going to Jerusalem today and possibly Ramallah to talk to more people and get more reactions.
If I can manage to get into the Palestinian Authoritiy territories, I'll still focus on my main question which is about Iran, not Sharon, or settlements, or Hamas, etc. I'll ask the ordinary Palestinians about how they perceive Iran and its leaders and what do they think about Iran-Israel relationship.
This would particularly be interesting when asked from Hamas supporters or members, If I can get to talk to any. It will show how much influence Iran, as many claim, has among Hamas supporters and members on the ground.
Posted by hoder at January 30, 2006 7:02 AM
Isn't it awesome that, a muslim, originally from a hostile country can walk the streets of Israel with no worries about his safety, and actually have people who have been thrown out of their own country (Iranian Jews) be nice towards him, even amidst all of these tensions? Yet, an Israeli is not even allowed to enter an arab country. And I wouldn't dare think of his/her fate if they did.
A word of advice though if I may. As a visitor to Israel who happens to also be a Muslim and whom is concerned about his safety, I wouldn't push my luck and venture into the occupied territories. These are difficult and trying times, and wouldn't want someone like you to be detained under suspicion of terrorist activities, even though your intentions are noble, if not somewhat idealistic. I don't know if you realize, but there isn't a border between Ramallah and Israel, just checkpoints with armed Israeli soldiers (IDF). Don't play around on the fact that you are a Canadian in Israel and an Iranian in Ramallah. Being a double agent always held it's share of risks.
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Hossein, thank you for your work towards peace between Iran and Israel. I read about your visit in the English version of Haaretz Online.
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Hey Hossein
wish you good luck with your initiative. i beleive the majority of people in both sides supporting the idea of having a normal, ratitional relation based on mutual respect and interest.
the fact of the matter is people are innocent and good, have no animosity agaist each other. they can understand, work and live together. the problem is with their politicians who craete this much of hate under the massive media bombardment.
politicians, no matter where or who, are like the diaper, they need to be changed, the sooner the better.
Rahmat
L.A. / CA.
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"it's a very complicated issue " ..... Not. The issue is very simple. One group of people decided they want the land but without the natives. Simple.
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Dear Hossein,
As a Canadian Jew who moved to Israel last year I want to thank and encourage you for your very important and courageous work. Nobody here wants war, though many of us are very afraid of the consequences of a nuclear Iran, particularly when the country is run by fundamentalists who repeatedly call for our deaths. Also worrisome is the connection with Hizbollah, which attacks us all the time. Perhaps through the work of people like you we can stop the conflict.
I am sure your schedule here is very tight, but nevertheless I extend to you my hospitality should you want a place to stay or eat in Jerusalem, or someone to show you a bit of the nightlife.
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Hossein - The world needs more people like you. Thanks for your brave inquisitiveness. -Jonathan Edelman USA
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hi hossein! Welcome! Baruchim HaBaim. Glad you are getting around quite a bit to see the country - I hope when you went to Jerusalem you didnt just check out the historic places but spent time with people your age in nice places. Check out Tmol Shilshom the cafe/bookshop restaurant. Take a wander round Nachlaot and saunter down Emek Refaim. The Old city Arab Shuk is very cool too. Meanwhile see if you can get hold of that Israeli internet commercial with the Israeli in 'Iran' signifying two men meeting on the internet - to the music "i am sailing" I think you will like it
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Just read about you in a Jerusalem Post article. One thing I don't understand, Iranian Muslims even won't or can't go to the Great Mosque (Haram al Sharif) on top of the Kotel? I know it's not part of the Hajj, and understand its holiness, but don't get it. I thought that Iranian Muslims would want to flood Jerusalem. It wouldn't be bad for Israeli and Palestinian commerce either.
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welcome to israel, hossein! we need more people like you everywhere!
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Hi, Moise from Brussels, in 1985 I was a student at the University of Oregon in the US, being a foreigner, it was easier to meet other foreigners......and my first two friends where a Morrocan and an Iranian.
Nothing separated us for 5 years ! Amazing time, great memories......
Parvis and Nabil, where ever you are ; thank you !
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Kol HaKavod (Hebrew for "all the honor") for your work against censorship and your physical/spiritual journey to Israel. Are there any Israeli bloggers you're meeting with while you're there?
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Your'e in luck,
be aware that many of israel's citizens
hate arabs.
They look at one group of extremists and generalize every arab to be a terrorist or an Israeli-hater.
I don't have the statistics of how many think this or that way, but don't be shocked if you see some radical thoughts against arabs as a whole (Mavet la aravim - Death to arabs)
especially by the younger generation.
Just for you to know, I am against prejudices and it's good to know you are too.
By the way, I am an israeli and sixteen years-old.
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Hey Hossein,
I am a religious Jew and patriot living in Jerusalem and believe me, with your openness and warm heart, people will be lining up to invite you to their homes to show you some traditional middle east hospitality. Add me to the list! Best of luck, and God bless,
Aryeh
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I don't know how much longer you will be in Israel, but if you haven't already you should pay a visit to a Prof. David Mensahri at Tel-Aviv University at the Moshe Dayan Center for Middle Eastern and African History. He is a big Iran expert and gets interviewed on TV anytime something happens with Iran. I believe he was born in Teheran himself and went back in the late '70s for research in the last days of the Shah's reign. If I remember correctly (I had him for a class several years ago) he is also the head of some Iranian expatriates organization and travels to the Iranian communities in London and LA.
As for your surprise that being Iranian in Israel is so ordinary, it is a byproduct of the many fallacies and misconceptions people in the Muslim/Arab world have about Israel and Israelis: that Israelis arer mostly European Jews. Up until the mass immigration of Russians in the 1990s Jews from around teh Middle East accouned for some 60% of Israelis. Now it may be about 50%. Morrocans are, as far as I know, the single largest non-European Jewish ethnic group in Israel. Iraqis are also a major ethnic group, yet I get the feeling that many Muslim Iraqis in Iraq don't know that there were many Jews in Iraq who were very assimilated into Iraqi culture and that many of these Iraqi Jews are in Israel, so if Israel were to be destroyed and Jews were to "go back to where they came from" (as people like Muammar Khaddafi suggest), that would mean thousands of Jews knocking on the doors of Iraq, Yemen, Egypt, Morocco, North Africa as a whole, quite a few from Lebanon as well as Iran (not to mention the many Israelis, usually under 40 or so, who are half Middle Eastern and half European).
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Many muslim countries just blindly hate Israel and Israelis, after hearing all kind of stories through their biased media. Israel is indeed western in its nature, and maybe that what upsets its neighboughrs.
A COMENT TO URI: I belive the dislike from Arab countries and from much of the world towards Israel might be beacuse Israel is occupying Palestinan territories and oppressing palestian people....perhaps?
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dear Hossein!i'm Zohar from Israel!
i love your country and i have many iranian friends,really good people!
i wish to Iran and iranians success,peace and normalization and to return to be liberal Iran before religious revolution...
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Mr. Derakhshan,
I am an Arab-Israeli citizen. I want to tell there many things that I want to see different in this country, but I wouldn't trade it for any Arab country. The freedom of speech is priceless, so is the freedom of worship. The democracy isn't perfect, and there is aneed for improvement, but it's a lot better than the dictatorship in many countries.
That there is a civil-rights organization and others for saving animals is the best evidence that there are people with hearts of gold. So, I hope hatred will not rule the way Arabs see Israel, ( and vice-versa) and that the people get to know each other.Peace will come then.
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Dear Hossein,
My name is Golan and i'm from Jerusalem.
I'm a Jew, a soldier and a patriot.
Hossein, believe me when i tell you
that israelis care for the iranians.
For example when Iran had an earth-quake
we wanted to help, in order to show
the iranians that we really want to
start new relation with iran.
I bet that there is no one here, in
Israel who dosen't want peace with
Iran.
Seriously,
Golan.
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I just read about your visit to Israel and your blog in ynet.co.il and felt that it will be a sin not to come here and express my appreciation to you and your deeds. I already got to know many Iranians on the internet and indeed many of them are open minded and friendly people. I feel though, that the average Israeli knows more about Iran than the average Iranian knows about Israel (which is very little in any case I am afraid) and people like you can start to correct this situation.
Good luck mr.Derakhshan, I hope that you could soon write your thoughts from a free Iran.
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Being an Israeli citizen, I enjoyed reading an objective wiew in the matter of Iran-Israel.
I've spoken before with Iranians over the internet, and it seems like the people don't hate Israel as much as much as the government tries to imply.
I hope this government there will go down and a new leader who sicks peace will rise.
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I'm glad you're having fun at Israel. Personally, I have no problem with the Iranian people, and wish it was also the other way around.
Many muslim countries just blindly hate Israel and Israelis, after hearing all kind of stories through their biased media.
Israel is indeed western in its nature, and maybe that what upsets its neighboughrs. I Don't know.
I guess that with less blind hate and with more open communication between the people who just want to know each other, this false hatered will go away.
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Unlike Yehudit, i'm not gonna start talking politics, i'm only gonna say that beyong politics and shit, people like me and you only want to live in peace =)
Sincerely,
A.H
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True, Yehudit, very true. This, I believe, is one of the reasons Hamas will keep the Palestinian people in the dark. It's in the interests of regimes such as the ones Iran and Syria have to keep the Palestine-Israel conflict alive and bloody. It shifts the attention from the local matters of the populace to something outside.
If there aren't any barbarians at the gates, make some.
By the way, Hoder, I find this blog to be very interesting, and shall keep an eye on it in the future.
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I hope you will meet some more friendly faces during your very unique visit in Israel and in the Palestinian Authority.
But do not let our faces mislead you; there is an undesirable amount of fear, hate and mistrust in both sides. Dig dipper when talking with people - there is much more than meets the eye.
I am afraid you won't be able to pay a visit to your homeland for a long period of time now, but that only enhance my appreciation for your visit.
Well done, very encouraging indeed.
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Hi Hossein, it's Jordan, of the Iranian Weblog Research Project / mutual friend of Mo's in Vancouver.
I'm thrilled to hear about your Israeli tour. As a ethnic jew who's spent quite a bit of time living and studying in Israel, plus as someone with an obvious interest in Iran and Iranian blogging, i've dreamt about this sort of thing for a while now.
Good for you for having the courage to go ahead with this, especially devoid of any political angle re: the conflict.
I cant remember if i'd told you, but i'd been writing my (now defunct) thesis through the Ben Gurion University of the Negev, which is down south in Beersheva.
I'm not sure where you're slated to speak, but my uncle is dean of undergraduate studies at the Technion (the sciences uni in Haifa), so if theres anything i can do to help, please let me know.
PS Try to get to Abu Hassan's Hommous restaurant in Jaffa before you take off - possibly the best hommous on the planet. ; )
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Plz update how it was in jeruslam...
This blog intrests me.
Can u go back to iran after coming to israel?
You say that all arab arnt Extreme and out of touch like the Goverment in Iran?
How come the Hamas got the most votes?
its a goddamn faict Group that aims for war and aims for killing babys...(None like the Ira that aim for goveement).
Most of Iran supports the Hamas, no?
And a country that is led Bilndly by religion...how can u trust such a thing?
If so many people in Iran wanted peace they woukld be peac all ready.
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Since I know Lisa reads this comments and I needed to register to leave comments in her weblog:
Lisa, i would like to thank you for hosting Hossein while he is there. We, Iranians, are very proud of Hoder's move and hope that that Iran and Israel become close again.
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"Does it mean that I think Iran-Israel conflict is more important than Palestine-Israel?"
It is. Palestinians aren't threatening anyone with nukes. And their terrorists are being funded partly by Iran. The Palestinians are proxies for the big players in the region. if they refused to be played everything would change.
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