February 8, 2006
Holocaust
I'm thinking of organizing something such as a collective visit by Iranians abroad to Holocaust museums around the world, or ask anyone who disagrees with Ahmadinejad's denial of systemaic killing og Jews by Nazis to link to a speceifc page about Holocaust. The latter is called Google bombing and is known as a common way to protest online.
Our silence only is seen as support for this radical warmonger that is the best thing could've happened to Bush and Netanyahu. There is no bigger threat to Iran's national security bigger than Ahmadinejad.
Posted by hoder at February 8, 2006 10:10 AMComments
Fantasti idea! Please tell me how I can help from Italy (I don't understand Farsi)
- By: Esperimento on February 22, 2006
- By: Esperimento on February 22, 2006
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Hi Hossein, I found your blog around a few corners (http://www.zeitspuk.de/archives/587-Planet-Iran.html, https://www.hamburg.ccc.de) which won't tell you much unless you understand german. It's good to learn something about the opinion of the public in iran. The most information you get around here are the insane statements of your head statesmen. I find the chance to get an insight into your peoples thoughts a very valuable one. thanks for that and best wishes from hamburg, germany, alex
- By: Alexander Gabriel on February 21, 2006
- By: Alexander Gabriel on February 21, 2006
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re: Chris McGreal's articles in the Guardian: please please please see this link for some perspective
http://www.engageonline.org.uk/blog/article.php?id=240
Also, accusing a country of genocide is pretty serious. Just to be clear, it means that you want to annihilate a race of people. What is the evidence, really, that Israel wants to do this to anyone?
The Nazis did have a plan to eliminate the Jews; and anti-Jewish rhetoric and propaganda were a tool they used in achieving this end.
As a peace-seeking American Jew who is friends with many Muslims, it is really hard for me to understand the comparison made between Zionism and Nazism.
Quite honestly, the rhetoric comming out of the Arab world is pretty Nazi-like in the depiction of Jews. As a Jew, it makes me very fearful and very misunderstood.
- By: Elizabeth on February 17, 2006
- By: Elizabeth on February 17, 2006
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I like your idea. I think anything we can do to open up dialogue is a good thing. Muslims have recently been encouraged to hold open houses in Mosques here in Canada teaching the history of Mohammed, lest we base our whole conception on a few comix. Yeah, and I think someone should send Ahmadinejad on a little field trip to Dachau or Auschwitz. The real issue might be that he doesn't care about the holocaust, but then at least he should be made to admit that so that people wouldn't follow him based on deception. There are too many sensationalist claims that catch the attention of the media without allowing people to see their context.
- By: sirbarrett on February 16, 2006
- By: sirbarrett on February 16, 2006
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it is a good idea to remind people of the holocaust and those who commited those awful crimes but at the same time we need to remind people that a new holocaust is being implemented and it is being carried out by the children and the grand children of those who were murdered by the nazis.
The iranian people do not support the palestinian cause because of islam.they support it because they know that a genocide is taking place.the daily shootings of palestinian civilians ,mostly kids under the age of 12 and checkpoints reminiscent of the nazi concentration camps are vividly recorded in the minds of iranian people.
please check out the outstanding work of chris mcgreal at the guardian.co.uk regarding fascism and apartheid in israel and the destruction of palestinian society by the nazi zionists.
and hoder needs to be impartial and stop being an apologist for criminals who are committing crimes against humanity.
- By: irani on February 16, 2006
- By: irani on February 16, 2006
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By the way: This is a link to a Dutch documentary about the life of Iranian Jews in Iran. The first minutes are in Dutch but the rest is in Persian with Dutch subtitles. So those of you who speak either Persian or Dutch will be able to understand it :) It's very interestng but also a little bit sad as it describes the current difficult situation of the Iranian Jews in Iran. After watching it, you will see that they are not only badly treated by the Iranian regime but also by some ordinary Iranians. But at the same time they are very loyal to their home country Iran and love it more than anything else.
http://cgi.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/streams?/tv/nikmedia/archief/bb.20060108.asf
- By: Cyrus on February 13, 2006
- By: Cyrus on February 13, 2006
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Great to hear/read an Iranian voice of sanity. Sorry I missed meeting you when you visited jerusalem
- By: Jerusalem Gypsy on February 11, 2006
- By: Jerusalem Gypsy on February 11, 2006
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Dear Hoder,
Don't use the names Bush-Netanyahu as a "balance" to the Moslem tyrant Ahmadinejad.
This 7th century re-incarnation of Arab imperialism is not the alternative to two national leaders whose job it is to protect their nations from groundless Moslem aggression.
What will the Holocaust project do? Will it stop Moslem aggression? No.
The standard Arab answer is - Go back to Europe, it's their problem.
Only by persuading mainstream Persia to recognize the nationhood of the Jews on their land, something the Arab refuses to do, can you help.
- By: emanuel appel on February 10, 2006
- By: emanuel appel on February 10, 2006
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Hoder and other Iranians: I'm wondering. Are there still Jews alive in Iran today and if so how are they treated? I'm finding a lot of conflicting information on the Web. Elizabeth
- By: Elizabeth on February 10, 2006
- By: Elizabeth on February 10, 2006
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See Ahmaghinejad's cartoons
- By: Iran on February 10, 2006
- By: Iran on February 10, 2006
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Hey Hossein its me Lukas from ILcu..
hope u remember me. Its a great Idea to organize a visit of Iranians to Holocaust museums!! As German I fully support your Idea. If u need any help let me know!!! also see my email I sent to you before some minutes ago....
Lukas
- By: Lukas Lehmann on February 10, 2006
- By: Lukas Lehmann on February 10, 2006
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It is important for us iranians to show that the iranian regime is not representing the iranian people.
- By: Iranian student on February 9, 2006
- By: Iranian student on February 9, 2006
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Very good idea.
Iris,
here is one Iranian who not only feels no hatred towards jews but has deep respect for their humanism and their rich culture.
- By: An Iranian Student (AIS) on February 9, 2006
- By: An Iranian Student (AIS) on February 9, 2006
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Hi Faramin--I think that Hoder has made it clear that this is not a site to discuss the Palestinian issue. But that being said, it might be interesting for you to take a look at some materials on the Holocaust with an open mind and compare point by point with what is going on in Gaza and the West Bank in a really formal way just to develop your idea more fully.
- By: Elizabeth on February 9, 2006
- By: Elizabeth on February 9, 2006
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Google boming can backfire, though.
See jew-jew.com. Its author set out to do precisely the same thing as you, in the bad-math hope that by relentlessly repeating the word "Jew" and asking lots of people to link to his site, he would manage to chase the antismitic jewwatch.org site off the first page of Google results. After over 2 years, his site isn't even among the first 1000 results for a "Jew" search in Google. What happens is that Google penalizes sites who try to artificially raise the number of links to their sites.
For a recent instance of the way in which Google punishes "link farmers" see Google 'death penalty' for BMW site By Stephen Hutcheon. Sydney Morning Herald. February 6, 2006 - 12:10AM.
Best
Claude
- By: Claude on February 9, 2006
- By: Claude on February 9, 2006
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It would be great if Iranian bloggers came to visit Auschwitz-Birkenau
and maybe tried to bring some of Ahmadinejad's voters along. This is
where 1.1-1.5 million people, of whom over 90% were Jews, were
exterminated by the Nazis. Writing the farsi version of the article on
the farsi wikipedia might be useful too. There are lots of polish bloggers and most of them are
probably young people and more or less understand some basic,
English, and many of them would be happy to speak directly to
Iranians, person-to-person. The most known anti-racist organisation
in Poland is Nidgy więcej!
(Never again!). Make contact and visit!
- By: people to people contacts on February 9, 2006
- By: people to people contacts on February 9, 2006
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Dear "Hoder",
good to read an article like this one. I visited your weblog a few times during the last week and it became a very important and interesting place for me. It showes me something "we" who are living outside of Iran too often forget: that ahmadinejad is not _THE_ only voice of iran. it remembers me that there are other, better people which I do not know because there's no possibility for them to give me their point of view, but they're there...
I liked your short article so much that I linked them and some info about your blog in my own weblog in the following article: http://pleasedontask.blogspot.com/2006/02/irans-mahmud-ahmadinedschad-and.html
- By: zep on February 8, 2006
- By: zep on February 8, 2006
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Hossein, as a Jew (not Israeli) I am interested to know if most young Iranians really have hatred towards Jews? It really scares me and sometimes I think there could be another holocaust. I don't hate Muslims, I would like peace but sometiems I think they would kill me even if I want peace. Please let me know. Thanks Iris
- By: Iris on February 8, 2006
- By: Iris on February 8, 2006
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Speaking of Holocaust and its undeniable occurrance, is only meaningful if it is paralleled with speaking of the crimes committed by Israel against millions of Palestinians during decades of occupation of Palestinian lands. Indeed, World needs to be reminded about the horrors of Holocaust, but also world needs to be reminded of the horrors of living under the brutal Israeli occupation.
- By: Faramin on February 8, 2006
- By: Faramin on February 8, 2006
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I don't think they much care! Radical Islamic fascists have a pretty limited and narrow view. And the world is not watching in silence. I think the situation has been made very clear to Tehran.
Please do not "Protest" or endorse this kind of "Protest" of false links or Google bombing. We want the internet to be better and "user-friendly", and could do with less of this!
Thank-you. Cheers!
- By: James on February 8, 2006
- By: James on February 8, 2006
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I absolutely agree with you. I think it's a great idea to organize a collective visit by Iranians abroad to Holocaust museums. So just suggest a specific date for the visit and each of us can plan a visit to the Holocaus museum in his city on that date.
- By: Cyrus on February 8, 2006
- By: Cyrus on February 8, 2006
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Do you jump on the bandwagon just to oppose the Islamic Republic of Iran or do you do it out of deep conviction...?
- By: Freedom on February 8, 2006
- By: Freedom on February 8, 2006
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when did you become so pro-jewish. you must be looking to advance your career.
- By: peter on February 8, 2006
- By: peter on February 8, 2006
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http://tinyurl.com/dl2dm
- By: Slingshot on February 8, 2006
- By: Slingshot on February 8, 2006
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