March 29, 2007

On The British Sailors Siezed By Iran

I don't think I have anything more now than what these people have expressed in BBC's Have Your Say:

If Iranian sailors entered British waters, the British would arrest the Iranians. The Iranians would then protest that they had not been in British waters; but the British public would not believe that.

That is exactly what has happened but in reverse.

-- E Taylor, PARIS

If the UK soldiers detained by Iran should be returned, then so should the Iranian liaison employees detained by the US on Jan 11th this year, whose fate still remains unknown. Bet then again, recent events have shown that there are two sets of laws, one of which applies to people we like, and the other which applies to those we don't.

-- Martin, England, UK

Imagine a situation whereby Iran had invaded and occupied France and routinely sent patrols into the English Channel to search for "smuggled cars" on ships. Would that be tolerable to the UK? If not, why not? The converse situation is a reality with the British occupation of Iraq and Royal Naval presence and activity in the Persian Gulf.

-- M. M. Zaman, UK/Canada

Tony Blair said ..."In the end, it is a question really for the Iranian government as to whether they want to abide by international law or not". I assume that he dare not ask himself this question as the answer is all too apparent. Last time our troops were held by Iran the same denials and accusations were made by the British govt. They were in fact in Iranian territory violating international law. Our govt lies to do what it wants. Time for a regime to change - ours, not theirs

-- Richard, London

Will the U.K. now seize Irananian naval vesels patroling off Cardiff in the Bristol channel? The absurdity of the Western military presence in the 'Persian' Gulf heralds back to the days of White Man's Burden. The hyopocrisy of western outrage is comical. Exactly why is a British ship within a thousand miles of the Persian gulf?

-- Bill wontanabee, Canada

The UK must keep its nose out of other peoples affairs. What sanctions are in place against the military ruler of Pakistan who has atomic weapons, overthrew a democratically elected government and refuses to allow elections in his country. Mugabe has slaughtered hundreds of thousands and no one even talks about invading Zimbabwe. Iran wants nuclear weapons, the UK says these are necessary for security in a modern world.
It is the hypocrisy of the Western powers that really annoys.

-- Arthur, Derby

The capture of 15 British sailors is the Iranian response to the UK / the US cat and mouse game against Iran. The UK / the US are testing Iranian response and determination in their preparation for strike against Iran.

The Iranian rapid response was to send a signal to Blair to stop illegally entering Iranian territorial waters on Arvandrud in the Persian Gulf.

-- Azar, Wheaton, IL , USA

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Comments
mr. scott, i know one state in the "middle east" which hasnt signed the NPT and undoubtly IS in the posession of nuclear weapons. a state, on which NO pressure is put and in which no IAEA-inspections are accomplished. a state which has repeatedly threatened to use its nuclear arsenal and denies the rights of other states of the region to such weapons. a state which has a unique lobby in the worlds last superpower, his big brother, which will do any "dirty job" they desire. about the non-existing press freedom in current iran: thats nothing new. iran under the mullahs is a dictatorship. mr kain, overthrowing (or trying to overthrow and destabilize) democratic elected governments appears to be a traditional american form of affection. shall i recall: chile 1973 (allende; establishment of a bloody dictatorship), nicaragua from 1979 on (establishment of the "contras"), guatemala 1954, iran 1953 (mossadegh), plus dozens of further examples,especially in latin america. simultaneous you (i use this address like you did it) maintain close relationships to dictatorships like saudi-arabia or -previously- pinochet. i know, a person like you gives a sh.t for (for example) 3000 chileans who were killed under the latter. many of them were rotting (and tortured) in a football stadion before being exexuted.
- By: sendmeroses on April 1, 2007
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again, its not that simple you might believe. they should release them. wheter they have crossed the border or not. why not be generous? and whats the alternative? yes, there are a lot of groundless and unjustified anti-iranian attitudes. but the iranian regime does its best to make the country the skunk of the world!
- By: shapour on April 1, 2007
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In this incident does one build on truth or a lie? Time will tell. What if the UK naval personnel were kidnapped in Iraqi waters, and where pressured and manipulated into giving statements. I think these are the key truths and all else in Iranian drama, rhetoric, paranoia, propaganda and expansion into the Persian Gulf (International Waters) as its private lake? Like Zimbabwe, Iran hasn't really moved on from 1979. What the Iranians do not realise is the UK feels threatened by recent Iranian political and religious militancy. In 2007 it is matterless if the distance is 1 nautical miles or 8,000 nautical map if a government is willing to "wipe" disliked countries off the face of the earth, or "crush" others beneath its revolutionary feet, in an age of ballistic missiles. If you look at every news site in Tehran one will see no free press or reporting, and all 25 newspapers print what the IRNA puts out. The truth is out there and it does not seem to come via IRNA! Iran has been very clever in dismantling the Non proliferation Treaty to push its nuclear program. Its arguement is all 150 states can have nuclear power and potentially have a weapons program. For many of UK people who campaign against trident or a new generation of nuclear power stations in the UK, Irans position is retrograde and unhelpful. Irans direction will lead to all other Gulf states developing nuclear programs. Bahrain, UAE, Kuwait, Saudi Arabi, Yemen, Oman, Quatar, Iraqi (again), Afganistan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Jordan, Syria, Azerbaijan, a future Kurdistan. When US and UK forces leave Iraq and the Gulf in 1-2 years time, and security history, the spectre of a nuclear littered Persian Gulf could be reality, with Iran as the initiator state.
- By: bob scott on March 31, 2007
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What's really funny is America and Britain, in a round about way, are responsible for the creation of the current Iranian government, since both powers destroyed the Iranian democracy in the 1950's in favor of a pro-western Shah who allowed said superpowers to rape Iranian resources. But ever since the revolution the west has been acting like the harmed victim, and baiting Iran every chance it could get. There is no excuse for the behavior of the western superpowers. However, it is telling of how capitalistic endeavors can lead entire civilizations to greedy and dangerous means.
- By: danielspengies on March 31, 2007
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There always should be looked "at things" in a greater context. Some do so. "Some" never will for it'd just bother their mindset and propagandawork. http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=816 "Another day in the empire" ... anyhow a quite informative site in general!
- By: Jeanna on March 30, 2007
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Tehran specially around spring time is a much better place to be than hot and moist Bsara, additionally Tehran is safe and Basra is lawless and dangerous (thanks to the imported democracy!). Also unlike US army Iranians have not put leash on their detainees.
- By: azaddost on March 30, 2007
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Seizing hostages appears to be a traditional Iranian form of affection. After all, no one has mentioned the seizure of our embassy in Iran in 1979 by "students" including one Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. The Iranians complain that the seizure of Iranian intelligence officers in Iraq is protected by diplomatic immunity, but had no problem blowing up the Israeli embassy in Argentina. Iran has also kidnapped Israeli soldiers like Ron Arad, who are probably rotting in your five star hotel, Evin prison
- By: Herbert Kaine on March 29, 2007
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